“I live in an apartment building right across from the Asian Art Museum, so it’s pretty close by. Sometimes [other musicians] come, usually I take turns. I’ll play for a couple hours and go someplace else and give everybody a chance. But they [other musicians] don’t do that too much anymore.”

“There have been changes since I moved back to San Francisco. It used to be more industrial, South of Market. My little machine shop I used to work at is gone. They just couldn’t afford to do business here anymore and they left. Went to Oakland or somewhere, they’re probably not even in Oakland anymore! Now it’s a car dealership. We made all the lighting fixtures in town.”

“It’s changing with the high tech. I’m not blaming anybody; it’s just the way the times are.”